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Re: In reference to 655 and 653
Posted by caf - October 15, 2002 at 10:47:25pm
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Re: In reference to 655 and 653
Posted by Louis Asbach - October 11, 2002 at 1:58:38am:

Louis, you seem to believe in a variant kind of doctrine of reincarnation, angels being clothed with flesh for a second life, and a kind of karma, that a past life determines human destiny before birth. Both of these are in serious conflict with basic Biblical teaching.
Indeed, Hebrews 2:7-9 along with 2:16 make it plain that humans are completely distinctive from angels, that angels and humans were each created for the purposes of God. In regard to human beings, Paul says that "The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual." 1 Cor 15:46 NIV We do not begin as spirit beings, whether angels or otherwise, but as flesh, with the only exception being Jesus for whom a body was prepared (Hebrews 10:5). You would have everyone saying what only Jesus could say. Except for the Son of God, the life of every man begins when he is conceived in his mother's womb. God did not "place an angelic being into that clay," God "breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living soul." The man had not been a living soul before, the clay became a living soul when God gave it life, it was not a living soul placed into clay.
I did not previously "avoid" Jeremiah 4:23, 25, 27. Please consider that reply again, and read the entire passage in Jeremiah, which is about the destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar. God is not the author of confusion, he didn't drop a different subject into the middle of the prophecy. Judah, by her idolatry, had gone backwards, defying God's purpose and the structure he had given her. God does compare her to the unformed world without light, because she has refused his light and rejected the life he brought to her.

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